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Friday, March 04, 2011

David Lynch Murdered, Demonized by Media

White Supremacist David Lynch Shot in Head at Home, ABC, Russell Goldman, 4 March 2011:
One of the country's leading white supremacists was gunned down in his California home, shot in the head and torso as his pregnant girlfriend watched, police said.

David Lynch, 40, an organizer for the American Front, one of the country's oldest skinhead groups, was killed in his home early Wednesday morning. Lynch's 33-year-old girlfriend, who is five months pregnant, was shot in the leg.
Soon after police responded to the 911 call, they arrested Charles Demar, 36, another white supremacist and acquaintance of Lynch. Authorities are calling Demar "a person of interest." They charged him with drug possession.

Since the 1980s, Lynch has been on the radar of law enforcement and organizations that monitor hate groups.

The Southern Poverty Law Center describes Lynch as a "clever and charismatic racist skinhead organizer whose history of racist activism dates back to the late 1980s."

Lynch rose through the ranks of California's skinhead movement, consolidating power and ultimately uniting once rival racist organizations throughout the state, as well as in Utah, Florida and Canada, according to the SPLC. In 2005, he met with then-National Alliance chairman William Pierce, perhaps the most prominent American neo-Nazi, when Pierce visited Sacramento, according to SPLC.
The Anti-Defamation League calls the American Front one of the "oldest continuously active racist skinhead groups in the United States."
On its website the group describes itself as "a collective of highly motivated racialists of European descent, striving to establish an autonomous homeland for American whites, dedicated to securing, advancing, and defending the sacred blood of our glorious ancestors at all costs." Since his death, white supremacists have taken to the Internet to mourn Lynch.

On the Website of White Revolution, a caption under his photo reads "Hero, Patriot, and Friend."

Writing on the same site, Billy Roper, whom the SPLC calls "the uncensored voice of violent neo-Nazism," wrote: "Dave Lynch: My Friend, and one of the best men I've ever known, a hero of our people and our cause. We are in shock."
White supremacist David Lynch shot dead, Calif. police arrest "person of interest", CBS, Camille Mann, 4 March 2011.
Police have arrested a person of interest in the killing of prominent white supremacist David Lynch, a chief organizer of the skinhead movement in the 1980s.
David Lynch, white supremacist leader of the American Front, shot dead in California home: cops, NY Daily News, Aliyah Shahid, 4 March 2011:
Lynch was the leader of the American Front, which according to the Anti-Defamation League is one of the "oldest continuously active racist skinhead groups in the United States." He began working as an organizer for the group in the 1980s.

"The group espouses an anti-Semitic, white supremacist ideology and disseminates its message in public events that demonize Jews, immigrants, and other minorities," the ADL says on its website.

Lynch's acquaintances told The Bee that Lynch was working as an asbestos removal contractor. The doormat in front of his home read, "Come back with a warrant."

Local gang expert Lt. Milo Fitch described Lynch to CBS News as "one of the most well known and influential figures in the white supremacist movement."

'This is a significant event in the white supremacist world - it will send shock waves," he added.
The Associated Press: Skinhead leader killed in shooting at Calif. home, AP, 4 March 2011:
Authorities say a leading white supremacist known for organizing skinhead groups has been fatally shot at his Northern California home.
Skinheads In Sacramento: The death of David Lynch brings bad memories to past victims of white hate groups, Fox KTXL Sacramento, Lonnie Wong, 4 March 2011:
The death of white supremacist organizer David Lynch, founder of the group American Front, was a suprise to victims of hate violence in the Sacramento area.

"I didn't know there was a leader so prominent living in our community," said Sacramento County supervisor Jimmie Yee. Yee's home was firebombed in 1993 by Richard Campos, a teenaged white supremacist who grew up near his neighborhood.

Yee said hate crimes have no place in Sacramento and that Lynch's death was a wake-up call. Lynch was found shot in the head in his Citrus Heights home. He was one of the nation's best known hate-group leaders and was described as charismatic by those who track hate-groups and their leaders.

"It's disturbing," said Sacramento City council member Jay Schenirer who is the president of the B'nai Israel synagogue, one of three in the area that were firebombed in what is known as the "Summer of Hate," in 1999.

Lt. Milo Fitch, a gang unit officer who tracked white hate groups for the Sacramento County Sheriff's Department, said it's not suprising tht neighbors didn't know Lynch's history. Lynch often wore khaki pants and button-up shirts, according to intelligence from hate watch organizations. Clothing and tattoos don't necessarily define an ideology.

"Many of them come from middle class families, not from the lower socio-economic groups you find with other gang members," said Fitch.

Yee says the community should be aware of groups that take a lower profile.

"That type of organization is still very active and they'll do anything to cover up their activities," said Yee.

Schenirer said they have to take a more sophisticated preventative approach to dealing with young people who are recruited by hate-groups. That means education programs for middle and high school students.

"The intervention after it's happened aren't going to work really well. We need to the community to work on the prevention side of it," said Schenirer.
In a few more years these same people will be surprised and disturbed to discover they have any White neighbors, period.

A man killed in a Citrus Heights home has been positively identified as David Lynch, a skinhead leader and founder of branches of the group American Front, KTXL, 4 March 2011:
The shooting investigation remains on-going, and anyone with information should contact the Citrus Heights Police Department's Tip Line at (916) 727-5524 and reference CHPD Case number 1102586.
White supremacist leader killed in Calif, MSNBC, 4 March 2011:
Mark Potok, director of the Intelligence Project at the Southern Poverty Law Center, told msnbc.com that Demar is also a white supremacist who goes by the name Charlie Boot. He is the lead singer of Stormtroop 16, a white-power rock 'n' roll band, Potok said.
[Citrus Heights police Lt. Gary] Hendricks told KXTV police are investigating whether Lynch's death is related to an association with skinhead groups.

"We're following up leads in regards to (Lynch being part of a skinhead organization) based on a rumor that is actually coming from the media, not from us," Hendricks told the TV station. "So we're following up with regards to that as well. That is part of our investigation as well."

Organizations that monitor hate groups described Lynch as an influential white supremacist with a two-decade-plus history of racial activism.

"I would describe him as a former first-tier leader in the '90s. He was very well-known, especially on the racist skinhead scene. He was a bright and charismatic man and also a man sometimes with incredible potential for violence," said Potok of the SPLC.
According to his enemies, David Lynch was a bad person. It is a measure of their influence that within hours of Lynch's murder every major media outlet has quickly broadcast their negative views, not as a paid advertisement or op-ed, but as raw, supposedly objective news. Lynch's own words, and the reactions of his friends and supporters, are either not mentioned or are minimized. While several reports cite and even link to the non-White supremacist ADL and SPLC as authorities, none link Lynch's own American Front.

American Front defines itself in Fighting For the White Worker Since 1984!:
Who We Are


We are a collective of highly motivated racialists of European descent, striving to establish an autonomous homeland for American whites.

We are dedicated to securing, advancing, and defending the sacred blood of our glorious ancestors at all costs.

We will work to promote our values, goals and ideals so that this and future generations of our folk will not be enslaved by the greed of Capitalism, the oppression of Communism, or the disgrace of multiculuralism.

We believe in White unity first and foremost, putting petty and personal differences aside to concentrate on the real issues of our dying race.

We do not pollute our bodies with drugs or excessive drinking, as we attempt to live as man was intended with pure mind, body, and race.

We believe that we must be as self sufficient as possible, first in our own daily lives then in our nation.

We accept many different political stances as long as race is the first component of their platform.

We accept any religion unless it contradicts racial law.

We feel the struggle of our people is not a gender specific issue therefore both men and women are accepted as full members.

We strive to make sure our membership is comprised of quality individuals; solid comrades are the backbone of solid organizations.

We believe in the re-institution of the morality, strength, and honor of our revolutionary forefathers.

We will heed the call in defense of all that is sacred to our family, race, and nation.

We are Greyshirts, and if you are a loyal white racialist, we believe in you!
I had not previously heard of David Lynch. If, like me, you're curious what it is that he believed that so disturbs the ADL and SPLC, then you'll want to read Commonly Asked Questions & Answers Concerning the American Front.

The people who hate David Lynch hate Whites for being White.

Paul Fromm talked about Lynch in his most recent podcast, The Fighting Side of Me: In Memoriam, David Lynch at Voice of Reason.

In RIP Dave Lynch at Occidental Dissent, Andrew Yeoman writes:
For those unfamiliar with Dave he was a lifelong advocate of white people and worked tirelessly to bring justice to our people. Lynch was a driven and highly motivated leader and charismatic man that led a turbulent yet increasingly effective community of men and women in the skinhead scene and beyond.

Raised in San Francisco during the 1980′s, he is survived by two daughters and an unborn child.

Dave was a great man. I knew Dave as a tough, street smart, and passionate man who deeply loved his family, the future of our people, and the legacy of white advocates such as Bob Mathews and surviving members of The Order.

I will miss his guidance and laughter like the loss of my own brother.
David Lynch wanted what I want. I'm eager to learn more about Lynch and the skinhead scene. Comments with information and links to other coverage are requested.

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40 Comments:

Anonymous Hail said...

"In 2005, he met with then-National Alliance chairman William Pierce, perhaps the most prominent American neo-Nazi, when Pierce visited Sacramento, according to SPLC."

I see the SPLC is still running at their standard 1-lie:10-words ratio.

Pierce died in 2002 not 2005, and he never identified himself as a "neo-Nazi".

They really have a racket, don't they. And somehow they are never called on it by respectable media (who I presume are simply clueless and think this is some kind of legitimate group).

Maybe in some alternate universe or dreamworld, SPLC spokesmen are referred to as "Prominent Racial-Bolshevik [so-and-so]".

3/05/2011 03:43:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Widespread reporting for the murder of a man so "notorious" that his neighbors had never heard of him.

The ADL and SPLC are organs of organized jewry. Organized pro-jew bigotry. Organized anti-White hate. They expend a great deal of time and money conceiving and spreading their hate, projecting it onto Whites. That their message is more or less directly echoed in media reports indicates which media outlets are more or less on the same anti-White/pro-jew page.

"Neo-nazi" and "white supremacist" are intended as terms of abuse, to call forth a Pavlovian response, demonizing Lynch and thereby discouraging and demoralizing anyone who holds or might consider adopting a pro-White point of view. The use of "neo-nazi" is an indirect recognition of the conflict of interests jews have with Whites, implicitly faulting Whites for the alienation and animosity jews regard us with. They regard our desire to live amongst and govern ourselves, for our own benefit, as a mortal threat to their interests.

3/05/2011 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Captainchaos said...

"They regard our desire to live amongst and govern ourselves, for our own benefit, as a mortal threat to their interests."

For thousands of years Jews have experienced selective pressures that adapted them to live parasitically off their host population. They are literally evolved for parasitism. Their separation from us with no viable alternative host IS a mortal threat to their interests. On the face of it, it may seem insane for them to wish to destroy said host. But that is not the way they see it. They - I presume if they have thought the matter through - believe they are preparing a more pliable, less potentially dangerous host by encouraging mass mongrelization. A host with a 90 average IQ and skin the color of shit.

Is it really a coincidence that Tim Wise married a White woman and not a nigger? I would tend to doubt it. He didn't put his money where his mouth is because he doesn't really believe his own bullshit.

3/05/2011 09:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Captainchaos said...

When I was an undergrad in the early 2000s I took a class taught by an aged Straussian Jew who was portrayed as a minor character in the Saul Bellow novel Ravelstein - which of course is a thinly fictionalized biography of Allan Bloom. He was semi-retired at that time and was heavily assisted by a Palestinian grad student. That grad student, in a private conversation, told me Ashkenazi Jews in Israel hold themselves superior to even darker skin Jews. He added that he was Arab and that this was an important part of his identity - after some low-key needling by me about the superiority of Western culture, which he conceded. I witnessed the Jewish professor give his Palestinian grad student a spontaneous, affectionate pat on the cheek before class began. Thick as thieves they were. Cynical as could be. Both knew the game. Access to the table of the ruling caste requires not biting the hand that feeds you. Something was rotten there, I just knew it. But at the time, I didn't know what I was looking at.

3/05/2011 10:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Captainchaos said...

That Jewish professor didn't like me much. I took pleasure in arguing with him in class. My quick-witted, acerbic tongue often forced him to concede a point. I would be sitting in class, mind drifting from sheer boredom, and look up to see him shooting ocular daggers at me. "What the fuck?!" I said to myself. I didn't know what I was looking at. But I'm sure he did: "When will we see the last of these obstreperous Germanics! Oy vey! It is we Jews that are the rightful heirs to all they've built."

3/05/2011 11:22:00 PM  
Anonymous RED said...

"Respectable" media is not clueless, of course. They are the same lying jews as the SPLC jews, 'cause, jews are jews,cunning, hateful, and subverssive. Apparently, everyone who is on to the jews is a 'nazi'. Hitler wanted Germany to exist within itself without the pestulence of the jew parasites, and we see the results of that desire; clandestine jews working behind the scenes to bring the entire world against a maligned Germany. And truth be known, the allies did far more evil and despicable conduct towards their fellow man than the Germans could ever think of.

3/06/2011 04:50:00 AM  
Anonymous ben tillman said...

The most amazing thing about the linked article is that Goldman never gets around to discussing why he might have been killed or who the suspects are.

The point of the article seems to be, "He's dead, thank G-d, he deserved it."

3/06/2011 06:53:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

"The point of the article seems to be, "He's dead, thank G-d, he deserved it.""

Yes, that's the point of all the articles, except the one whose point was to let non-Whites vent, "He's dead, thank G-d, he deserved it, I can't believe a consciously White White person lived near me, can't the police do something about that?"

Anti-White fear-mongering is the norm. Politicians and media routinely paint Whites and White political interests in a negative light - and not just skinheads or explicit racialist leaders like Lynch. Deracinated Tea Partiers are regarded with comparable disgust and disdain. Consider how Sharon Angle was demonized for including immigrant/mestizo gang imagery in her campaign videos last October.

So, White gangs are evil and Whites who fear non-White gangs are evil. Factoring out the gangs, what remains is a consistent presumption that Whites are evil.

3/07/2011 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Hail said...

Tanstaafl wrote:
"So, White gangs are evil and Whites who fear non-White gangs are evil. Factoring out the gangs, what remains is a consistent presumption that Whites are evil."

Very nicely put. Brilliantly framed.

Catching the Zeitgeist by the tail and holding up its ugly squirming body for mockery in the town square. That's the most effective weapon we have. And that is what those two short sentences I quoted have done.

3/07/2011 02:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Wandrin said...

"The Anti-Defamation League calls the American Front one of the "oldest continuously active racist skinhead groups in the United States."

The ADL is one of the oldest continuously active jewish racist groups in the united states.

3/07/2011 03:33:00 AM  
Anonymous RED said...

Yes, the articles are total smears of any race-aware Whites. White gangs? Any jew or race aware White is condemned as evil and dismissed as a hater for describing even the mildest shortcomings of blacks. These condemnations are intensified if one dares to identify the perfidious agenda wielded by the kikes. Not only are skinheads, or alleged "nazis", portrayed as evil haters, even that most notorious, the White Nationalist gang is right up there with the best of them.

3/07/2011 06:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Captainchaos said...

I attempted to post the following comment at Mangan's:

"Mangan must decide how vigorous of a debate he is prepared to allow. Naturally, this will be pegged to the true degree of his commitment to whatever principles he in fact adheres to. For instance, is Mangan committed to the preservation of the “White race” as this is commonly understood? In a comment of mine that did not clear “moderation” (censorship), I accused Troost of being a “genocidalist”. Now, if the definition of “White race” may be debated, why then cannot be the definition of “genocidalist” concomitantly be debated?

Is our objective, I mean those of us who refuse the yolk of slavery in any sense, not to cast a dispensation we find oppressive and in the final analysis ruinous of that which we value in life? If indeed, then let us act as if."

Typing in haste, one sentence came out garbled, and was intended to read: "not to cast our lot with a dispensation"

Funny that. Those with the verbal facility and intellectual ability to smash the best the opposition has to offer are consistently censored at Mangan's. Mangan must know that he has already crossed the Rubicon with his statement of belief in inherent racial differences in intelligence. In for a penny, in for a pound. So what gives? My guess, his perceived status in the eyes of those credentialed advocates of the genocide of our race matters to him. Pathetic. And of course, one foot in, one foot out, married to a chink.

For those who have not guessed, it is not the Jews in the end that have brought our race to the edge of the abyss of genetic annihilation, it is fucking cowardice and want of character on the part of those that can and should lead.

Does Mangan read this blog? Will he read this comment? I damn well hope so.

3/08/2011 01:49:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

CC,

As you have noticed, the argument about genocide, premised as it is on the existence and validity of White interests, serves as an acid test. It is telling enough that there has to be an argument, with the other side mainly refusing to apply the same standards to Whites that they would to anyone else. Those who actively suppress the argument render it moot by aiding and abetting the genocide.

The more clever opponents redirect the argument rather than suppressing it. They may have some heretical, half-hearted pro-"white" things to say, but the last thing they want to face is the anti-White/pro-jew reality. Moldbug paints it as Calvinism/Christianity run amok. Auster, Gottfried, and Fjordman describe it as suicide. There is no puzzle in this obfuscation. Their defense of jews takes priority over any defense of Whites.

Many awakening Whites, misinformed and misguided for so long, are taken in by this kind of faux-White flimflammery. Mangan is clearly moving in the right direction. It's possible he blocked your comment only because he perceived it as a personal attack on Troost, or himself.

BTW, the CNN article Mangan links, Are whites racially oppressed?, is an attempt to channel and defuse the argument by pretending to have one. More than half the article is given over as a soapbox for Tim Wise and "Whiteness Studies", which are completely antipathetic to Whites. Would CNN run an article titled "Are jews oppressed?" and give half the words to the side that says no? Would they allow David Duke as many paragraphs as they give Tim Wise? They might, but then they would be attacked by angry, hate-filled, self-righteous jews and obsequious gentiles convinced that CNN is run by jew-haters whose article is a sure sign of an impending genocide. Such is the anti-White/pro-jew regime.

It is to Mangan's credit that he hosts a true argument, that he permits discussion of the distinction between Whites and jews.

Are you saying Mangan's wife is asian?

3/08/2011 10:16:00 AM  
Blogger Chechar said...

Captain,

I have just posted an entry in my blog about Dennis’ censorship. Although my post is temperate, I am angry too. I have encountered this cowardice in counter-jihad blogsites, when I was unaware of WN just a couple of years ago. It looks like even “reactionary” conservatives who now are honest about the JQ, in other subjects suffer from what we may call “dishonesty out of cowardice”.

Feel free to post angry comments in my recent entry if you like.

P.S. You will also find relatively recent entries there about if it’s suicide or homicide. Reactionaries who adore degenerates like Roissy and cannot even discuss NS (and presently I’m not talking about euthanizing the retards) make me feel that there are indeed suicidal tendencies among whites.

3/08/2011 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Captainchaos said...

Tan,

Mangan's wife is Asian, I've read, here and there. I can't recall making reference to that fact in any comment before now. That is his business. But he ought not pretend to be "pro-White" whilst censoring the voices of White men who protest the genocide of their race in order to shelter the amour-propre of genocidalists, such as Troost. It is a matter of honor.

Say what you will about my aggresive approach, but it did succeed in forcing Troost to lay his cards down, and face-up on the table. Alas, I am consistently stifled in playing my full hand. All to protect the egos of little men.

3/08/2011 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Pat Hannagan said...

CC, the thing is Mangan posts under is real and actual name. That's a pretty big thing.

As he says "I write this blog at no little personal risk to my career and my future freedom; while you may think that an exaggeration, it's something that worries me constantly, and I wonder whether I should be dong this."

He's being honest when he says this. He finds it a "risk" and it "worries" him so much so that he often thinks of not blogging. I think we should cut him some slack as he's a great and valuable proponent of our cause, who goes where many other bloggers and opinion writers won't go.

btw, he's not and never has been married to an Asian.

Captain Chaos, I like your work and the way you articulate your arguments. You're a clever man and valuable for it. Don't be discouraged. Keep on commenting at Mangans so that many voices can be heard. Should you be denied then merely rephrase if the comment is worth pursuing. I've been denied and deleted at Mangans many times and understand from Mangans perspective why he does so. Sometimes I couldn't be bothered reposting and others just rephrase what I have to say.

I like your aggressive approach too fwiw.

3/08/2011 04:39:00 PM  
Blogger Chechar said...

I am responding here to Pat Hannagan’s recent comment that, due to the spam filter, for the moment can be read only in the email Inbox:

@ “Keep on commenting at Mangans…”

Pat, although you addressed this advice to Captain, how could I rephrase the temperate comment that Dennis Mangan censored today and I reposted in my blog?

I believe that the Captain is right, and reference to counter-jihadists in my newest blog entry is apropos.

When I started to mention NS at Gates of Vienna, the administrator emailed me asking me to stop even though I didn’t violate any of his guidelines and in spite of the fact that, at that time, I was still a philo-Semite.

Then came my “conversion” to WN and soon discovered that the JQ could not be discussed at that site even if my sources were Jewish. I purchased a copy of Esau’s Tears to try to reason with counter-jihadists to no avail: all of the regulars, including Fjordman, simple shunned me.

Counter-jihadists are cowards. COWARDS pure and simple. As I said, their dishonesty about the JQ comes from their cowardice before the current zeitgeist.

Dennis Mangan is somewhat better. For a time he censored Tan and Svigor’s posts. But like me, Mangan saw the light and he now accepts discussing the JQ.

But conservative reactionaries have their limits, too. National Socialism, the coming revolution and the “H-man” (as Mangan put it) are taboo.

I don’t believe that the reason for this is that he is afraid of losing a job. A few months ago Mangan stated very clearly that he would never agree with Greg Johnson’s views on WW2. Mangan subscribes the current accepted wisdom about the so-called “nazis” and “neo-nazis”.

I hate all dishonesty that comes out of cowardice. My own family was thoroughly destroyed because of my father’s cowardice. What happened today at Mangan’s is part of the problem we have in modern time: the feminized western males that are too afraid to discuss the H-man openly.

Harold Covington publishes and broadcasts with his real name. You can see the abyssal difference with Mangan. William Pierce, who also used his real name, wrote in The Turner Diaries: “Those whose only concern is to enjoy life in these times of trial for our race do not deserve to live.” Pierce referred to all conservatives who are only concerned about their money and their comfortable lifestyles.

I don’t think that after Dennis censored my rather mild and almost politically-correct post (I am linking it again) I will try to use twenty minutes or so to elaborate another one for his blog: the time it takes me writing proper English syntax as a second language.

3/08/2011 06:15:00 PM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

White Supremacists Demand Revenge for Murder of David Lynch (note: this page reverts to a pay gate after the first few views)

This analysis, dated 3 Mar 2011 and selectively quoting unspecified "white supremacist forums", is offered by SITE, an organization whose byline reads "Breaking News, Articles, and Analysis on the Jihadist Threat".

SITE has a special section titled "White Supremacist Threats" which is linked from a banner featuring the StormFront "White Pride World Wide" logo prominently positioned on every page. How in the world are "White Supremacist Threats" related to "the Jihadist Threat"? The connection is SITE's overarching concern for jewish interests.

3/09/2011 06:54:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

Apologies for the occasional comment that gets caught in the spam filter.

I have no control over that filter. I can't even turn it off. I would if I could because it mostly catches ham. I have however enabled moderation for posts older than a few weeks (I have used various values) because this filtering actually does catch more spam.

3/09/2011 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tanstaafl,

It is wrong to lump Gottfried with the likes of Moldbug and Auster.

Yes, Gottfried defends Jewish interests; but he does so in what I would consider an honorable manner. He is willing to engage in a civilised debate with Judeo-critics, without resorting to dishonesty, name calling etc.

Gottfried's disagreement with MacDonald seems to me to be a matter of emphasis. Gottfried blames PC on secularized Protestants (and Jews), while MacDonald blames PC on Jews (and secularized Protestants - see for instance his TOO blog post "Guru transcendentalism: A domestic Culture of Critique")

Personally, I've questioned his lionizing of H.L. Mencken. After all, if, as Gottfried insists, Protestants become self-destructive after they lose their faith, the last thing one should do is to undermine that faith with Nietzshean philosophy. However, many Whites are far more guilty of this than Gottfried is. (Counter-Currents, for instance)

Frankly, if all American Jews were as tolerant of Judeo-criticism as Gottfried is, and if their critiques of Whites were as reasonable as Gottfried's are, I would have no complaints about American Jews.

3/09/2011 05:21:00 PM  
Blogger Chechar said...

Anonymous 7:21,

Something tells me (perhaps only Tan can check the IPs) that you have posted elsewhere with a penname. Are you involved in the counter-jihad movement?

Anyway. What you say about Counter-Currents only reflects a superficial reading of that site. It is true that Gottfried is fairer than Auster et al; he has even spoken openly about the influence of the Jews to conservative racialists (see e.g., this video). But blaming post-Nietzschean philosophers for how former Protestants fall into a collective sense of cultural guilt borders the ridiculous. Spengler et al only detected a disease, they didn’t caused it.

Yes, Gottfried is the fair exception of his tribe that only confirms the general rule.

3/09/2011 06:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Captainchaos said...

Mangan could simply give notice that the views of his readers expressed in their comments do not necessarily reflect his own and that his publishing them evinces his commitment to a totally free and unfettered debate. He does not do that.

Show some fucking backbone, Mangan!

3/09/2011 09:19:00 PM  
Blogger Chechar said...

That’s why I won’t try to post again at Mangan’s. Big difference with Jihad Watch:

/quote:

NOTE: The Comments section is provided in the interests of free speech only. [...]

The fact that any comment remains on the site IN NO WAY constitutes an endorsement by Jihad Watch, or by Robert Spencer [...] of any view expressed, fact alleged, or link provided in that comment.

/end quote

3/09/2011 09:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Captainchaos said...

Chechar,

You have GIGANTIC writing chops. Keep at it, and spare no effort in advertising your blog.

3/09/2011 09:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

High praise indeed for Captainchaos to say that about anyone but himself.

All the same, Chechar may have unreasonable ideas about the feasibility of reviving Hitler's reputation.

3/10/2011 11:55:00 AM  
Blogger Chechar said...

@ High praise indeed for Captainchaos to say that about anyone but himself.

Well… as to my writing abilities I feel handicapped even in my mother language. The commenters I’ve met in the internet who are not native English speakers have a dominion of the English language that surpasses my amateurish level by far. Really!

I never intended to write. As a child I was educated in classical music and in the visual arts. That’s why, aside of my anecdotal research on the toll of child abuse (most of it written in Spanish), movie criticism should have been my real forté. Only very late in my life, when I discovered that whites are committing demographical suicide (or that die Juden are genociding us, however you want to look at it) I started to blog. But my level of English is still very basic. I need many years to be able to learn how to use idioms properly.

@ All the same, Chechar may have unreasonable ideas about the feasibility of reviving Hitler's reputation.

I don’t believe it is feasible in the near future. But I believe that, before the omnipresent propaganda of the Jew-led MSM against us (I mean: before my enlightenment I got the nazi archetype mainly from Hollywood), we must start looking at NS beyond the current paradigm.

Have you read this article by Irmin? I discovered it last year and it completely changed my mind.

3/10/2011 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Captainchaos said...

Let what was good in Hitler be praised and that which was found wanted be condemned. In giving back to our people the greatest gift that can be bestowed upon them - the truth about themselves and what in truth they are - there can be no error. It is liberal moralistic fanaticism and Jewish pathologization which has clouded the lens of a true perception of ourselves. Bathed in the light of a true consciousness of our race, our enemies will scatter from us like cockroaches, such will be our strength; and goodness too as all men look aloft to our shining faces and know that no harm shall befall them for our puissance is ever entwined with magnanimity.

3/10/2011 09:39:00 PM  
Blogger Chechar said...

Blunders like invading The Soviet Union before Germany got its nukes (and even the French gambit that went well but was too risky for my taste) must be condemned if we are not to repeat them once we have our state. Yes: I will read Covington’s next and last novel of his Quintet: the first 50 years of the ethnostate and how it survived against incredible odds.

By the way, Captain, on February 22, 2011 at 11:48 am you said at Occidental Dissent: “…This will be my final comment at this blog. Adios.”

But now not only you but OD itself seems to be gone, or should we believe that it’s on “Maintenance Mode”?

Perhaps I’ll be gone too: see my latest entry in my blog.

3/10/2011 10:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Captainchaos said...

At Occidental Dissent, Chechar, not here and else where. It is sadly too common for the finest commentators in the service of our cause to let disenchantment with conspicuous personalities affect their own enthusiasm for doing their part in bringing understanding to our people. Of course many will be shown to have feet of clay. But that can never be the station of our cause. It is true, right and good, or nothing is.

I will not be deterred, nor should you be. You answered the call when Tan came a-calling. One White man to another. It is just in that, with those who DO have character, by which we will gain survival and so much more for our people - or not.

3/11/2011 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Captainchaos said...

For Mangan:

The articulated will of White people for their people to survive is NEVER to be granted equal privilege with the voices that demand our total racial dismemberment.

Do you understand me?

3/11/2011 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you understand me?

He might be more likely to understand if you worded things more clearly.

The articulated will of White people for their people to survive is NEVER to be granted equal privilege with the voices that demand our total racial dismemberment.

You mean said will of White people should be granted greater privilege than the voices that demand our total racial dismembement?

In other words, you think Troost (who you allege to demand our total racial dismembement) should be banned from commenting at Mangans?

3/11/2011 06:37:00 AM  
Blogger Chechar said...

Although I cannot answer for Captn., I think he never said “ban him!”, only let’s not pass non nationalists the microphone more time than passing it to genuine nationalists.

By the way, what happened to Mangan’s latest post, “Ramblings,” which as far as the Google’s cache let me know, before it was deleted it started with these words: “10 Mar 2011 ... One says that "Mangan must decide how vigorous of a debate he is prepared to allow. Naturally, this will be pegged to the true degree of his ...”?

3/11/2011 07:04:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

A new development, eight days after Lynch's murder - the police are finally going through the motions of investigating.

Citrus Heights cops seek tips in reputed skinhead's murder:

"Citrus Heights police detectives are reaching out to the public to help them solve the murder of a man found fatally shot in his home March 2."

. . .

"Now detectives are asking any residents on Merlindale Drive and nearby Farmdale Way to contact them if they have security camera images of any vehicle leaving the area after the murder. In addition, detectives want to talk to anyone who has knowledge of Lynch's activities in the week preceding his death.

Anyone with such information was asked to call Tip Line at (916) 443-HELP, (800) AA-CRIME or the Citrus Heights Police Tip Line at (916) 727-5524.
"

Security cameras generally have a limited capacity and write over their older data. Maybe next year the police will get around to serving a warrant to look for spent shells.

3/11/2011 08:15:00 AM  
Blogger Tanstaafl said...

CC and Chechar, I'd appreciate if you would take the Mangan-related discussion elsewhere, say to Chechar's On Mangan’s.

I don't usually mind the occasional off-topic comment, or even when a discussion veers off into a completely different topic, but I posted this entry to gather and share information about David Lynch.

3/11/2011 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous fellist said...

I am glad to hear of David Lynch’s service and sad to hear of his death. His family and friends can be proud of their association with David whose life was well-lived and offers an example to all of us.

***

SITE is Rita Katz, ex-IDF, presumably MOSSAD. Puts out a lot of fake audio and video supposedly from bin Laden and associates. Not at all surprised to see her having a go at the old enemy, too.

3/12/2011 03:25:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

OT: Important information about Egypt.

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2011/03/mission-no-77-us-funded-false-flag.html

3/13/2011 01:54:00 AM  
Blogger Robert said...

Another David
Goodbye David Lane - Saga
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MliNCRYpd8

3/13/2011 03:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great comments ALL, and thank you for providing additional enlightenment on the hatefest unleashed following the unfortunate and untimely death of White racialist David Lynch.

I think the following piece posted in the Jews' News, Marxist yellow-rag, the "LA Times" took the grand prize for smearing of White racial interests, and demonstrating WHO the real NAZIS are (Note too the particular contempt for the "glorious ancestors" shown in the final excerpt):

[Updated at 12:15 p.m.: Nancy Appel, associate director in the San Francisco regional office of the Anti-Defamation League, said Lynch was quite a significant figure in the white supremacist movement, and his murder could be viewed as a blow to the movement, at least for the short term.

“For a group like this, dedicated to spreading hate, it is a good thing that they have suffered this blow,” Appel said.

However, Appel said the extent to which Lynch’s death would disrupt the movement and lessen its hatemongering was unclear.

“We’ve seen movements that have lost their leadership, and there is an implosion,” Appel said. “But the haters are still there. We’ll just wait and see what happens. We’re really not going to miss David Lynch.”]

Since Lynch took over leadership of the American Front in 2002, his greatest strength was to solidify his connections with other white supremacist hate groups across the country and even into Canada, according to information published by the ADL.
On its website the American Front describes itself as “a collective of highly motivated racialists of European descent, striving to establish an autonomous homeland for American whites” and “dedicated to securing, advancing, and defending the sacred blood of our glorious ancestors at all costs."

It's important to defend White racial interests on these stories (I see it as a very positive development of how many angry Whites are posting very good commentaries. I wrote the following in response to the above (always turn THEIR ethnic supremacy and hypocrisy on THEM) :

"Judging from Ms. Appel's chilling, outrageous comments on behalf of the Anti-Defamation League, perhaps she and HER ethnic-based, "supremacist" organization bears closer scrutiny and should be moved to the top of the list in this investigation."

Posted by: Angelica | March 06, 2011 at 07:01 PM

3/18/2011 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also wrote the following (different moniker) on the "Christian Science Monitor" smear piece with the usual anti-White-terrorist-culprits being cited with no hard questions asked by these despicable "journalists" to buttress ADL's or SPLC's claims:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2011/0304/Killing-of-skinhead-leader-David-Lynch-What-was-the-motive
Westerndetonator8 1 week ago

"'Founded in 1987, American Front “espouses an anti-Semitic, white supremacist ideology and disseminates its message in public events that demonize Jews, immigrants, and other minorities,' according to the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which researches and tracks hate groups." - ADL

"Lynch was 'a very bright, very drug-addicted, and sometimes extremely violent racist skinhead leader,' SPLC director Mark Potok told Fox40 News in Sacramento. - SPLC

Why do you cite ADL's and SPLC's claims without asking for any proof to back it up. Is the media now nothing more than a mouthpiece for this ethnic-based, supremacist-itself group? Is this the new low in journalism whereby you merely function as a parrot for those wielding real power?

I wish someone with cajones would take ADL and SPLC to task for denying to Whites' what they so freely practice amongst themselves. I may not agree with his "skinhead" philosophy of advancing White racial interests, but as best you've given us, what evidence do you have that Mr. Lynch "demonized" anyone. The ADL and their sister Jewish organization are the real hateful "demonizers." Ethnocentrism (a preference for one's own culture) is a universal trait, and preservation of one's people a moral imperative. Why are ONLY Whites' "demonized" for exercising these natural impulses?

3/18/2011 07:32:00 PM  
Blogger Joshua Bauer said...

David Lynch will never be remembered by anyone in any position to speak as to his character, or countenance by some zionist news letter, or SPLC watchdog over “Anyone who they can defend to justify their existence and next piously exclusive of anything that has anything to do with I knew David to be a educated, cultured, and capable man, and by that I mean that he took in the world, made it a point to be interested and to learn and more over to teach. He was able to explain things in such a way that folks could understand. He respected other cultures strengths taught from their mistakes, and our own. He believed as I do that we have a responsibility to defend at all costs the heritage, culture that makes us unique. He believed that that uniqueness was to be sacred and protected and prepared for the conflict that that would inevitably bring. Simply put, he was a good man, a good soldier, and convinced that what he had was worth passing on. That is a responsibility that those kindred, like minded and intent can see is a battle that never ends. Of violence yes, but also one of cultural awakening, education, and pride. My elder taught me something that I have found to be true and helpful in this fight “To be unwilling to recognize the worth of all that brought you to be, unaware of the uniqueness of a heritage, race, or culture doesn’t necessarily make and enemy, just as the ability to comprehend and assimilate doesn’t make someone an ally….it does however make you a fool.” David Lynch was a good brother in our cause. Anyone who knew him would tell you that he’d give you the shirt off his back. All men are capable of violence, but I didn’t know nearly as many with a genuine willingness to help anyone who needed it. He will always be remembered and missed.
May you rest in peace Brother.

3/06/2014 02:24:00 PM  

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